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« on: August 29, 2007, 05:18:08 AM »

have been following various posts on here for a while now, but have never formally introduced myself. My name is Frank Redmond, I'm 41 years old, live in Bowie, Texas with my other half, Chris of 10 years and I collect, restore and yes, even hot od hearses from time to time.

I have been an avid fan of hearse's since I was 14 years old and a Sunday afternoon cruise with the family and stopping at a hearse dealer (Dad was looking for one to haul newspapers, he ended up buying yet another piece together station wagon). I, however had fallen in love with this massive car and knew I had to have one. I'd spend the next 24 years looking, wishing, attempting to buy one, but just wasn't in the cards.

At age 38 (3 years ago), I found one that was about what I was looking for, pre-1977, Cadillac, landau that was relatively close to where I live, was informed it ran and would go down the highway and the price was reasonable. I went ahead and bought the car thru Ebay basically sight unseen. It was in far worse shape in person than the pictures told on the ad. That was okay as I was at that time running my own shop and doing custom cars for a living. It was an okay driver for a car and did drive it on a regular basis, that is until two unfortunate happenings. The 1st was coming back from Wihita Falls, Texas (50 miles away) and went to pass a car and had to downshift to get the tank rolling. Upon my return to Bowie, it seems I had done something to the transmission and had the crossmember mount shift and snap. I was able to drive it yet around town (speed limit in town is 20mph and 1st/2nd worked manually). Did some work on the transmission and thought I'd repaired it, so took it out one of the highways and at 55mph, the hood came flying up, bending the hood, destroying the hinges, but NOT touching the commercial windshield! At this point, it was decided to park it completely, come up with a plan and then start modifications. http://s150.photobucket.com/albums/s89/HotRodHearseGuy/Cerberus%20-%201974%20Superior%20Cadillac%20Crown%20Sovereign/

Fast forward to April 2005 and the Pate Swap Meet at Texas Motor Speedway. As mentioned, I was operating a small but semi-successful custom car shop and had gone to Pate to locate some hard to find parts for a customer project. I was wandering around and stopped at this one space and looking, there is a board with pictures of cars for sale. I take a look as I'm always looking for a project of my own when I have time and what do I see, two pictures of a 1953 Superior Cadillac Combination hearse. I get to looking closre and closer and this is a COMPLETE COACH, including the rear loading door glass! Only problem, it's near Tyler, Texas, I live in Bowie and have no trailer to pick it up. Deal is struck anyway, says it can stay as long as needed and good to go. Here we go again.....basically another sight unseen coach, but I already know it has been in farmer' field's for a decade and am prepared for when I finally pick it up TWO YEARS, THREE MONTHS LATER. For pics, please click on the link http://s150.photobucket.com/albums/s89/HotRodHearseGuy/Esmeralda%20-%201953%20Superior%20Cadillac%20Combination/. I had medical & family issues starting a month after buying it and then still continuing today with the medical and health, being paralyzed/on life support last year. 2006 would also see the purchase of another coach from a friend, a 1969 Miller-Meteor Cadillac 3way that was definitely a project and would be best suited as some kind of hot rod limo/hearse. This would be the end of me and hearse buying/restoring/customizing for a while as two weeks later (May 25, 2006), I would end up in ICU suffering from Guillian-Barre Syndrome http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/gbs/detail_gbs.htm and would spend the next 4.5 months in either ICU or a "Skilled Nursing Facility" on life support and paralyzed from the neck down. I was released in mid-August last year, sent home and am still recovering from the residual affects.
Fast, fast forward to January 2007. I'm talking with some friends who run a hearse club in Kansas and brought up the topic of trying to launch the Route 66 Hearse Cruise we'd talked about our two club's doing the year before when I got sick. I should point out that in February 2006, I had started a Yahoo Group Hearse Club (has now gone to being a live, functioning organization) for those like myself who don't fit into the PCS style coaches or the Goth/Haunter coaches, but for those inbetween and hot rooders. I think there is a place for all of us who have the desire and want to own a hearse.
Anyway, we talked about it and I started making some well placed calls, see what kind of response and went from there. We're now less than a month away from hosting the 1st Annual "Get Your Kicks On Route 66 Hearse, Hot Rod and Classic Car Cruise & Show" http://route66hearsecruise.bravehost.com being held September 20-23, 2007 starting in Joplin, MO and ending in Elk City, OK with a 20 vehicle class car show, including for this year FOUR HEARSE AND PROCAR CLASSES. We're hoping to get enough interest where we can add and break down the classes in years to follow.
Having this Cruise created a small problem for me. I had planned to have my 1953 Superior in mechanical running shape (is being done as a resto-rod for I drive my cars on a regular basis and I'm using ALL Cadillac for the donor parts). However with Dr's orders saying no more strenuous work, I was not going to have this done. My other half then informs me that I have $1000.00 to either put into my 1974 Superior to make it mechanically running or I could find another car. I had seen on Ebay a few days before a 1987 Eureka Cadillac Concours in Tulsa with a "BIN" of $1250.00. The pics looked great, I had checkd the place out and found them to be a reputable DEALER (1st time for me buying this way and I HIGHLY recommend this method unless it's truly a rare and unique coach). After talking with the salesman on the phone that weekend, a deal was struck and I would meet him in Sallisaw, OK and ride with him to pick up the coach in Pine Bluff, AR. I know....yet another sight unseen coach. I however felt confident as the 1987 had also come from this Funeral Home. When we got there, I figured I'd see the coach right away, no, nowhere to be found. Seems that it was still in the garage and had to be pulled out. All I can say, I was FLOORED. My salesman thought it was also a Eureka, which I was extremely excited about as that was the re-introduction year for the coach builder as a Canadian company. However, to my amazement, it was a 1981 Sayer & Scoville Cadillac Victoria. It LOOKED NEW! The only down side to this new coach, is it had a repaint (Deep Black) some time back (still fresh and clean looking), but this had been a custom built S&S as it was originally Sterling Silver, black cobra top and black cloth brocade interior front and rear. Everything including the factory radio and power antenna works on this coach. The link for her is at http://s150.photobucket.com/albums/s89/HotRodHearseGuy/1981%20S%20and%20S%20Cadillac%20Victoria/.  This is also my "mature" coach and where I am now. After picking up the coach, seeing what needs to be repaired or replace, this is one coach that will remain virtually stock in all appearances and functioning. Under the recommendation of Joe Bunn at Accubuilt, I have decided that it was time to join the PCS as this coach definitely is a nice coach and maybe my "sins" can be overlooked with my other ones. I feel that all of us, be it Goth/Haunter, Hot Rodder, Stock/Original/Restored should be able to enjoy this hobby together. I'm also in application status with the CLC and Modified Chapter. it is GREAT to have those rare and historical examples, however, the younger generations, including myself have neither the time nor resources to buy or restore one, so we do the next best thing, we save them from abuse and neglect and do what our parents and grandparents did, personalize them to suit our INDIVIDUAL tastes. I'm not saying this to upset ANYONE, however, most of these International Organizations are also chasing away the younger generations for the strictness of the rules on these vehicles. The younger generations eventually will have the money to buy and restore these classics, but if they're chastised now, they're going to do what they do.
Well, now that I've told my life story and gotten on a soapbox (my apologies), I look forward to learning more and doing more within this most unique and interesting hobby.
Frank Redmond
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« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2007, 12:05:30 PM »

Hi Frank - Welcome to the forum

That is some story you have there and the pictures are really cool. I think I learned more about Hearses today than I ever wanted too Smiley That 1953 looks like the one that my town used as an ambulance back in the 1960's early 70's.

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« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2007, 12:34:32 PM »

Hi Frank - Welcome to the forum

That is some story you have there and the pictures are really cool. I think I learned more about Hearses today than I ever wanted too Smiley That 1953 looks like the one that my town used as an ambulance back in the 1960's early 70's.

Vinny

I've joined so many of these Cadillac Forums lately or renewed my membership into others, I kinda cut/pasted from the PCS board, so that's why my soapbox thing going on.  Thanks for the welcome and hope that my knowledge in this side of Cadillac is found to be a benefit to all here.
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Frank Redmond
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1974 Superior Cadillac Crown Sovereign
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« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2007, 03:39:23 PM »

I have only been on a few Cadillac forums myself. I find that many go dormant after a while. It seems that no one wants to talk about classic cadillacs sometimes.

Did you know you can use the links in photobucket to have the pics seen without having to click on the link. This forum uses the bbc code or the one that is the last line in photobucket. The one that starts with [IMG
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« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2007, 11:23:47 AM »

Great story, thanks for sharing!  Love the photos!  I recently photographed a unique white 1964 Cadillac hearse at a car show here in Henderson LV.




Be sure to let me know if your group gets all the way over this way!  Or even as far as Laughlin.
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« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2007, 09:27:06 AM »

WOW THATS A GREAT STORY, YOU EVIDENTLY LOVE THESE OLD BEASTS, I ALMOST BOUGHT MINE ON EBAY, BUT JUST COULDNT DO IT, ALL TOO FAR AWAY! BUT IT WAS MEANT TO BE FOR ME AFTER ALL I FOUND ONE 1960 IN GREAT SHAPE CLOSE TO ME! IT ONLY TOOK 4  DRIVE MY HUSBAND CRAZY MONTHS!
PEOPLE LOVE THESE CARS, I ADMIRE THAT YOU DRIVE THEM DESPITE THE DANGERS! MINE IS MY ONLY CAR AND DAILY DRIVER, ITS HARD TO RESPECT STUFFY SHOW QUEENS, THESE CARS ARE MEANT FOR THE ROAD.
OONA M. ( VAMPIRA'S CARETAKER)
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« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2007, 03:18:33 PM »

Hello tony here. I've loved hearses since I was 8 yrs old. I was in a rock band touring for a while- then I had a kid with my current wife. I still jammed but no touring. One day she told me I could have the car of my dreams - for 800.oo !! It was a 76 ( not exactly the ''one') but close enough. I restored it over the next 10 yrs . we named her Christine because it had a personality. I got married in that car - we've been through a lot -but unfortunately, it was totalled in a stupid accident. Two months later, I found my 74. I'm restoring her and doing a little customizing. if you want there are pics of both cars @ www.myspace.com/deadsled74. it's good to know other people share our obsession.
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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2007, 05:28:40 AM »

Hi Tony

Welcome aboard! Great pics on your myspace. I added you as a friend there http://www.myspace.com/cadillacfan
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« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2007, 11:54:09 AM »

thanks vin! I had a brake line fail so I'll be under the hearse all this weekend!(there's a joke in there somewhere) Here's some advice  - replace all rubber lines immediatly on an old car . it's just good insurance.I can't just replace a line - I've got to clean and paint everything too - it's an obsession,-maybe a sickness I can't tell.
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« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2008, 08:53:33 AM »

I recently photographed a unique white 1964 Cadillac hearse at a car show here in Henderson LV.


Soon to be on its way to Australia. I just bought it Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2008, 03:34:52 PM »

That is sooooo cool. I just got off the phone with Loxly and she said she has more pics of that beauty if you need to see more. 

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« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2008, 03:44:34 PM »

I think this is the gallery to that Cadillac I am not 100% sure though. http://www.cool-car-photos.com/gallery/v/by-make-model/cadillac/1964-cadillac-hearse/
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« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2008, 05:47:03 PM »

I think this is the gallery to that Cadillac I am not 100% sure though. http://www.cool-car-photos.com/gallery/v/by-make-model/cadillac/1964-cadillac-hearse/

Yes....thats her:D  Thanks Vinnie. Her name is Miss Lily.
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« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2008, 05:47:38 PM »

That is sooooo cool. I just got off the phone with Loxly and she said she has more pics of that beauty if you need to see more. 



That would be great Cheesy
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« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2008, 06:27:01 PM »

Do you have a good way to have the car shipped. I hang out on a board based in austrailia where guys get hot rods shipped. I would bet they would know the best way.  http://www.usmuscle.com.au/Forum/index.php?


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« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2008, 06:50:48 PM »

We have got some quotes and have found a good shipper, we hope. Just going through all the paperwork now Cheesy
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« Reply #16 on: April 01, 2008, 01:12:30 PM »

After you get your baby and everything is well I would like you to let everyone here know the shipping company you are using. I am sure others come here looking for a good shipper.

I am going to make your miss Lily the car of the month over on cadillaccountryclub.com feature her on the homepage.
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« Reply #17 on: April 01, 2008, 01:19:36 PM »

Wow!  That is sooooooooo cool.  I was at a small car show in Henderson a couple of weeks ago and was wondering why it wasn't there.  The owner was a very nice guy.  The gallery that Vinny pointed you to is where the photos I have of it are.  I was hoping to be able to photograph it again, but oh well!!!

Enjoy your "new" car, it's a beauty!
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« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2008, 05:11:22 AM »

Wow!  That is sooooooooo cool.  I was at a small car show in Henderson a couple of weeks ago and was wondering why it wasn't there.  The owner was a very nice guy.  The gallery that Vinny pointed you to is where the photos I have of it are.  I was hoping to be able to photograph it again, but oh well!!!

Enjoy your "new" car, it's a beauty!

Many thanks Cheesy I found your photos in a search just after we bought her....you take some great shots Smiley  The owner is a very nice guy and will miss his Ms Lily very much. Great that he is entrusting her to our care. We are thrilled !!  Your photos helped us to see more of her as its a sight unseen purchase ....kind of Smiley
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« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2008, 02:49:51 PM »

I placed Miss Lily on the homepage at www.Cadillaccountryclub.com and added her to the http://www.cadillaccountryclub.com/1964-cadillac.html page also
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« Reply #20 on: April 03, 2008, 07:04:24 AM »

I placed Miss Lily on the homepage at www.Cadillaccountryclub.com and added her to the http://www.cadillaccountryclub.com/1964-cadillac.html page also
Thanks Vinny Cheesy
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« Reply #21 on: April 03, 2008, 12:59:24 PM »

If you would like we can make her her own page on that site for you to show off to anyone you feel like. Smiley Just get me all the details and I can pull some of loxly's pics off her site and presto Smiley
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« Reply #22 on: April 04, 2008, 04:58:46 PM »

If you would like we can make her her own page on that site for you to show off to anyone you feel like. Smiley Just get me all the details and I can pull some of loxly's pics off her site and presto Smiley


That would be great. Cheesy   I have limited photos until Ms Lily gets to Australia. Can't wait !!
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« Reply #23 on: May 05, 2009, 08:15:41 AM »

Updates on Ms Lily  .....registered for on the road. Number plates 1 CRY.  Doing a few car shows with her sister Morgana ( our 59 ). Currently in the workshop getting a few overdue mechanicals sorted out.
Here she is at a couple of car shows here in Perth Western Australia.





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« Reply #24 on: May 05, 2009, 03:41:13 PM »

She looks great, I love the plate one cry its perfect.
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